SL Bar Association

SL Bar Association

[09:08] Tim Faith: hi Elizabeth
[09:08] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Good morning Elizabeth - ro good afternoon
[09:08] Sam Courtois. Esq.: or
[09:09] Elizabeth: Hello everyone. I am having serious problems online as I am on a borrowed computer. Forgive me if I crash.
[09:09] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Do your best.
[09:09] Tim Faith: we won't hold it against you
[09:09] Elizabeth: Thanks!
[09:09] Tim Faith: did Lexis talk with you about preparing a 990 for the IRS for the nonprofit entity?
[09:09] Elizabeth: Sam, I don't know if you started the meeting yet, but I can't report anything because I have no way to get onto a computer.
[09:09] Elizabeth: No.
[09:10] Elizabeth: I had no idea this was so much accounting work, if I had known that I very likely would not be so willing to do this position.
[09:10] Tim Faith: Sam, we might need a CA atty's help on the CA entity filing
[09:10] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We have not started yet, because we were waiting for you.
[09:10] Elizabeth: no worries.
[09:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Agenda is licensed in Cali.
[09:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Hello Sue.
[09:11] Elizabeth: Hi Sue.
[09:11] Suemoon Magic: Hi, I have had computer troubles for awhile, it's hard to get logged in
[09:12] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Elizabeth - do you expect to be without a computer for very long?
[09:12] Elizabeth: I'm hoping to be in possession of a new one on Tuesday and then I need a few days to get everything up and running.
[09:12] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Ok great.
[09:13] Sam Courtois. Esq.: So you should be up to speed by the next meeting?
[09:13] Elizabeth: Hope to be.
[09:14] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I am very anxious to know how many people have actually paid their dues.
[09:14] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We may be down to 7 members for all I know.
[09:14] Elizabeth: No, it's more than that. I think that one I have.
[09:14] Tim Faith: i paid in June, so there are at least 2 of us
[09:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Hello Lyra
[09:15] Lyra Snowpaw: hihi all
[09:15] Elizabeth: There are a decent number that appear to be paid up, I just have to double check with Lexis about his notations and how the dates work.
[09:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: OK
[09:15] Elizabeth: It's difficult when you aren't familiar with someone else's system.
[09:16] Tim Faith: was he keeping in in excel?
[09:16] Sam Courtois. Esq.: There are also reporting requirements that we need to worry about I guess.
[09:16] Elizabeth: grrrr
[09:17] Tim Faith: :(
[09:17] Elizabeth: Makes it tough as I am not a CA attorney.
[09:18] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Agenda is - she can be responsible for that part, I think.
[09:18] Tim Faith: I think if we can get to a profit and loss statement, we can get where we need to get from there
[09:18] Elizabeth: It's not really fair to assume she should do those things.
[09:19] Tim Faith: I left Agenda a message today to ask if she could help with the CA filings
[09:19] Elizabeth: Alright. Hopefully I will have those things soon provided I can get everything running next week.
[09:19] Tim Faith: I don't know if that's a practice area for her or not
[09:19] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I am sure it is not. She is pretty focused on IP
[09:19] Elizabeth: And then we can find out what exactly is required as I am hearing about all these things for the first time today.
[09:20] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I had hoped that Lexis was pretty organized.
[09:20] Elizabeth: I am sure he is.
[09:20] Tim Faith: I may also reach out to Geri to see if she has a record of what had been filed during her term
[09:20] Sam Courtois. Esq.: That would be great if you can get her attention.
[09:21] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I haven't heard from her since Daniel took over.
[09:21] Elizabeth: She's not showing up as paid up in the SLBA either.
[09:21] Sam Courtois. Esq.: She doesn't respond to my emails.
[09:21] Tim Faith: hmm
[09:22] Elizabeth: I'm not seeing her as a current member on the spreadsheet.
[09:22] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Perhaps I will need to make a RL phone call to her.
[09:22] ElizabethElizabeth nods
[09:22] Tim Faith: heaven forbid
[09:22] Elizabeth: lol
[09:23] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Maybe we can set up a conference call with you Elizabeth?
[09:23] Elizabeth: With?
[09:23] Sam Courtois. Esq.: you and me and Geri
[09:23] Elizabeth: Sure.
[09:24] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Anyhow, I am having trouble uploading the agenda for today's meeting.
[09:24] Elizabeth: Sl has been rather problematic it seems.
[09:24] Sam Courtois. Esq.: But I was just anxious to hear how things were going in the various areas of responsibility - Elizabeth is obviously having problems.
[09:25] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Agenda has been working her butt off., as usual, but determined to not have a First Saturday program this month due to the conflict with Vintage Fiar.
[09:26] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We still have a lot of vacancies in Justitia - although Juris has now joined the community.
[09:26] ElizabethElizabeth nods.
[09:27] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I am still hoping to have hear from Amnesty International - I am hoping to schedule a program for the last Saturday in September
[09:27] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Would that be of interest to anyone?
[09:28] Suemoon Magic: A speaker?
[09:28] Tim Faith: the 29th might work
[09:28] Elizabeth: Can't guarantee it, but sounds good.
[09:28] Sam Courtois. Esq.: OK - I will shoot for that with her.
[09:29] Lyra Snowpaw: I will come if I am not in the proces of moving
[09:29] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I don't know whether Jonathan will join us today, but we continue to need membership initiatives.
[09:29] Elizabeth: That's always a lot of fun!
[09:29] Elizabeth: Moving I mean.
[09:29] Sam Courtois. Esq.: You can come, even if you are moving!
[09:30] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We don't mind.
[09:30] Tim Faith: i think that is against our strict SLBA policy of not permitting people moving to meetings
[09:30] Lyra Snowpaw: hahahahaha
[09:30] Elizabeth: lol
[09:30] Lyra Snowpaw: well last time we moved took the internet guy a month to come set it up
[09:30] Elizabeth: urgh! That's not fun!
[09:30] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I suppose you're going to use that as an excuse.
[09:31] Lyra Snowpaw whispers: yes of course! it's as good as any : )
[09:31] Tim Faith: carrier pigeons are a good alternative to internet
[09:31] ElizabethElizabeth laughs
[09:31] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Oh well - whatever works.
[09:31] Lyra Snowpaw: yes but the grafix leave much to be desired
[09:31] Lyra Snowpaw: and the poop
[09:31] Tim Faith: lol
[09:31] Elizabeth: More like splatter painting.
[09:31] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Tim - what's on your plate, anything for the good fo the order?
[09:32] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Let's keep the bathroom talk to a minimum.
[09:32] Tim Faith: we have 145 members on the SLBA website
[09:32] ElizabethElizabeth giggles
[09:32] Elizabeth: Good!
[09:32] Tim Faith: I suspect a minority have paid dues
[09:32] Elizabeth: Definitely not 145.
[09:33] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We are losing money at a rapid rate -
[09:33] Tim Faith: last year I compared notes with Lexis and there were around 30 paying members that were on the web site
[09:33] Lyra Snowpaw: well could also be SL too--maybe a lot are no longer on SL. . .
[09:33] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We need to find the way to sweep the website, perhaps?
[09:33] Suemoon Magic: I think we need a "free" group to let people know about programs in SL.
[09:33] Sam Courtois. Esq.: it should be a worlking tool, I think.
[09:33] Sam Courtois. Esq.: working tool.
[09:33] Suemoon Magic: Donations could come from such a group and maybe clients.
[09:34] Sam Courtois. Esq.: is that something you can do. Tim?
[09:34] Lyra Snowpaw: you mean like a Clinic?
[09:34] Suemoon Magic: Just a group avatars could join that doesn't require fees
[09:34] Elizabeth: If people are going to the website, that should be a good thing, no?
[09:34] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I tried to befriend the "members" but ther is a limit of the number of friends you can have- at 100
[09:35] Tim Faith: maybe we could add a link on the web site to make a donation in SL?
[09:35] Elizabeth: That would be good.
[09:35] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I was hoping to send messages through that medium.
[09:35] Tim Faith: yes, there is a message broadcast tool from the web site as well
[09:36] Suemoon Magic: If you want people in SL to come to programs then you need to tell people in SL
[09:36] Tim Faith: I send emails from, but they may be tagged as spam
[09:36] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I would not want to be rude, but It seems to me that we need to find the way to prune the lists of those who are not longer interested inparticipating.
[09:37] Elizabeth: That can also have the opposite effect.
[09:37] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Those whoare interested, so be accessible so that we can enhance communication.
[09:37] Sam Courtois. Esq.: should be accessible*
[09:38] Suemoon Magic: Make different levels of "privilege in the existing group, a notice only category for those who don't want to pay
[09:38] Elizabeth: Sometimes people who aren't necessarily here or haven't been involved, may finally see something that tweaks their interest and come back. I'm not sure it's beneficial to shut them out of finding out about things.
[09:38] Sam Courtois. Esq.: What are you saying Sue?
[09:39] Elizabeth: I think she is saying those of who are members are voting members and active. Perhaps a different class of membership.
[09:39] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Is that doable?
[09:39] Suemoon Magic: I think we need a non fee membership group for those interested in the programs who don't want to pay membership
[09:39] Lyra Snowpaw: a question--are we trying to get more members in general or trying to get memebers to meet expenses?
[09:39] Elizabeth: Like people who find out about programs and come and may even make a donation but don't want to be SLB members.
[09:39] Suemoon Magic: either by different privileges in the existing group or a 2nd group
[09:39] Sam Courtois. Esq.: That comes up from time-to-time
[09:40] Tim Faith: So Sue you are talking about from within SL groups?
[09:40] Sam Courtois. Esq.: canit be that anyone is dissuaded from membership for the price of $2 US per year?
[09:40] Suemoon Magic: Yes
[09:41] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Tim can you divide the group along those lines?
[09:41] Elizabeth: Sometimes it's just that people don't have a desire to spend money - no matter how much or how little it seems to be - for something they can't be here for or don't want to always be in.
[09:41] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Paid up and Notice only members?
[09:42] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Tim?
[09:42] Elizabeth: Just a different tag I think might work.
[09:42] Elizabeth: SLBA Friend or something instead of Member
[09:42] Tim Faith: I'll have to ask Agenda about it for SL. For our RL web site, everyone is a free member.
[09:43] Tim Faith: maybe we should run a bake sale.
[09:43] Suemoon Magic: How do people find out about the web site? When programs are given is it advertised?
[09:43] Sam Courtois. Esq.: To my mind Elizabeth - it si just like everything else these days, there are those people who want to ride the gravy train, and those people who want to push.
[09:43] Elizabeth: Yummy! I'll even bake!
[09:44] Tim Faith: I haven't asked where new members find the SLBA web site. I try to put up notices on our home page of events we are doing.
[09:44] Sam Courtois. Esq.: You do a great job too Tim, thank you.
[09:44] Tim Faith: thanks, sam, though I do miss some event
[09:44] Tim Faith: events
[09:44] Elizabeth: I guess. I just think if we want attendance there has to be a way to get that information out to even those who are lapsed members and an "SLBA Observer or Friend" title might work.
[09:45] Elizabeth: awww, we lost Sue.
[09:45] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I like that - "Friends of the SL Bar Association - contributions in cash or in kind are welcome."
[09:48] Sam Courtois. Esq.: WB Sue
[09:48] Suemoon Magic: SL is SO frustrating lately
[09:48] Tim Faith: budget cuts
[09:48] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Sue - we were going to have a library program at some point - where are we with that?
[09:49] Suemoon Magic: The Community Virtual Library is downsizing again.
[09:49] Suemoon Magic: We had 10 Islands back in the day and now we will have 2
[09:50] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Can we schedule something there with your group for October?
[09:50] Suemoon Magic: I don't know what programs they will be able to host with less space but i will talk to them again
[09:50] Suemoon Magic: I will IM someone today
[09:51] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I think that might be of some interest - access to resources.
[09:51] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Hello Rykk
[09:51] Suemoon Magic: We do have some law help resources, most of which I have updated recently because Kate Fitz isn't around anymore
[09:51] The Freak Magnet: Morning
[09:51] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Welcome.
[09:51] Suemoon Magic: Cat Galileo
[09:52] Sam Courtois. Esq.: There's another one who just dropped out and won't respond any more.
[09:52] Suemoon Magic: Most of the law librarians don't think SL is worth it anymore, sigh
[09:52] Sam Courtois. Esq.: So it seems -
[09:53] Suemoon Magic: I was recently at an annual programs and I asked the SL law Libraria group if anyone wanted to meet and I got little response
[09:53] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We also seem to have lost our one law professor.
[09:53] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I guess SL is yesterday's news?
[09:54] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Perhaps we are relegated to the true believers.
[09:54] Suemoon Magic: It's harder to stay here without large, powerful computers anymore
[09:54] The Freak Magnet: Or that in these times, RL is becoming more demanding
[09:54] The Freak Magnet: Even a lot of musicians are scarcer than in years past
[09:55] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I know that Agenda things our focus is wrong.
[09:56] Sam Courtois. Esq.: She seems to be of the view that we are not reaching out to the correct audience - the users groups.
[09:56] Suemoon Magic: I would agree with that
[09:56] Suemoon Magic: The people trying to do business here
[09:56] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Especially the creative individuals who are interested in the art of SL.
[09:56] Suemoon Magic: They need legal information
[09:56] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Exactly her point.
[09:57] Suemoon Magic: Her last program was well attended
[09:57] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Her one calss was very well attended, and she is planning on more.
[09:57] Elizabeth: We also have to be careful about providing what may be "deemed legal advice" in a different venue or jurisdiction. Her class was very good.
[09:58] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Of course, there are ethical rules which we must follow
[09:58] Suemoon Magic: Librarians walk that line often
[09:59] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We do not seem to have a quorum just yet.
[10:00] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Anyone see anyone on line who might help us become official?
[10:00] Elizabeth: It makes it hard as an attorneys because our licenses are on the line with things like that.. So when we do programs we have to be very careful about disclaimers, etc. and the need and necessity to seek legal counsel in the appropriate jurisdiction.
[10:00] Elizabeth: Nope.
[10:01] Tim Faith: Soro is online but not here
[10:02] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We could post a large disclaimer on the wall downstairs: "Please disregard anything said here."
[10:02] Elizabeth: That's not what I meant. LOL.
[10:02] Tim Faith: excellent idea
[10:03] Sam Courtois. Esq.: "Practicing law without a license is prohibited!"
[10:03] Lyra Snowpaw: We really need a strip clubb upstairsM revue on one side F revue o the other
[10:03] Lyra Snowpaw: sorry butterfingers
[10:03] Elizabeth: lol
[10:03] Elizabeth: omg
[10:03] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Great idea - Lyra!
[10:03] Tim Faith: a lot of excellent ideas today
[10:03] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Could you be incharge of that please?
[10:04] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Perhaps over the coffee shop?
[10:04] Suemoon Magic: My religious venue has a pub on site called the Holy Heretic with live music ㋡
[10:04] Sam Courtois. Esq.Sam Courtois. Esq. smiles
[10:04] Lyra Snowpaw: 4th Amendment Strip Club and Law Library
[10:04] Sam Courtois. Esq.: How about "Barely legal?"
[10:04] Tim Faith: all reasonable searches and seizures welcome
[10:04] Suemoon Magic: lol
[10:05] Lyra Snowpaw: good one
[10:05] Elizabeth: awesome!
[10:05] Tim Faith: even without a warrant
[10:05] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Unreasonable searches and seizures are hereby warranted.
[10:05] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I like it
[10:06] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Make it happen.
[10:06] Lyra Snowpaw: well revenue and traffic would certainly increase. . .
[10:06] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Rykk you can make the music and Elizabeth you can sing.
[10:07] Suemoon Magic: Do our events go on the SL web events lis?
[10:07] Lyra Snowpaw: and our strippers could be special--they could do your taxes during the show
[10:07] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Do you know and bawdy songs?
[10:07] Elizabeth: lol
[10:07] Lyra Snowpaw: so we can be assured of only premium clientele
[10:08] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:08] Sam Courtois. Esq.: "Doing you and taxes too!"
[10:08] The Freak Magnet: Oi, I wish I had time. I closed my venue several months ago due to RL demands. Really difficult to schedule anything in SL anymore.
[10:08] Elizabeth: yikes
[10:08] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Hello Soro!
[10:08] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Welcome.
[10:09] Sam Courtois. Esq.: How are things at the CDC?
[10:09] Soro Dagostino: Hello All
[10:09] Soro Dagostino: Still rezzing
[10:09] Sam Courtois. Esq.: We have been discussing ways to expand interest in the Association.
[10:10] Sam Courtois. Esq.: A strip club or two has been mentioned.
[10:10] Sam Courtois. Esq.: By the way everyone, I ma in the party making mood.
[10:10] Tim Faith: we are just full of good ideas today
[10:10] Elizabeth: lol
[10:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I am going ot plan a Late Halloween Party.
[10:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Scheduled for the Saturday after the elections.
[10:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Here I think.
[10:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: People cam copme dressed as R's or D's and scare the hell out of eachother!
[10:11] Sam Courtois. Esq.: can come.
[10:12] Tim Faith: is that nov 10?
[10:12] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Yes.
[10:12] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Does that work for everyone?
[10:13] Sam Courtois. Esq.: something like 3 -6 p.m. SLT
[10:13] Tim Faith: can we get the strip club up by then?
[10:13] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Tha's Lyra's job
[10:14] lexpert: Hi
[10:14] Lyra Snowpaw: I need to find some schmexy law librarians to um koff stack papers in the club
[10:14] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:14] Elizabeth: Hello Lexpert
[10:14] lexpert: Hi Elizabeth
[10:14] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Hello - welcome!
[10:14] lexpert: I am new to SL
[10:14] lexpert: Thanks
[10:14] Lyra Snowpaw: Hi Lexpert
[10:14] Lyra Snowpaw: welcome to SL
[10:15] Elizabeth: Welcome.
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Excellent-
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Thank you for coming.
[10:15] lexpert: How do I sit?
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: please make yourself at home.
[10:15] Lyra Snowpaw: left click on the chair
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: click onthe chair
[10:15] Lyra Snowpaw: and a wheel will pop up
[10:15] Lyra Snowpaw: click sit
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: click on sit.
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: There!
[10:15] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Easy.
[10:15] lexpert: great thansk
[10:16] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Are you an attorney somewhere lexpert?
[10:16] lexpert: Yes, I am an attorney in India
[10:16] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Excellent.
[10:16] Lyra Snowpaw: oh welcome!
[10:16] lexpert: Now, I am Chicago for further studies
[10:16] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Cool
[10:17] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Rezzed yet Soro?
[10:17] Lyra Snowpaw: We were just discussing ways to increase membership
[10:17] Soro Dagostino: Yes Sam
[10:17] Sam Courtois. Esq.: What's happening with your favorite group?
[10:18] Soro Dagostino: It seemed that the lecture brought in a lot of folk.
[10:18] Soro Dagostino: CDS?
[10:18] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Are you still adjudicating disputes?
[10:18] Soro Dagostino: The Peoples Court died.
[10:18] Suemoon Magic: bummer
[10:18] Soro Dagostino: For want of an administrator.
[10:18] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Does that create a vacuum that we can fill?
[10:19] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Do we want to try?
[10:19] Soro Dagostino: It was getting cases.
[10:19] Suemoon Magic: an administrator would still be needed
[10:19] Soro Dagostino: The problem seems to be admin and acceptance.
[10:19] Sam Courtois. Esq.: What do you mean by acceptance?
[10:20] Soro Dagostino: The basis was developing a series of written decisions that would serve as references
[10:20] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I see -
[10:20] Soro Dagostino: And be accepted as governing. Like the common law of SL.
[10:20] Sam Courtois. Esq.: is there a legacy that has survived?
[10:21] Sam Courtois. Esq.: a corpus juris so to speak?
[10:21] Soro Dagostino: Sam, I can't answer that.
[10:21] Suemoon Magic: Anarchive of decisions?
[10:21] Soro Dagostino: There were some, but I havn't looked to see if it still exists
[10:22] Suemoon Magic: Where were hey?
[10:22] Sam Courtois. Esq.: That would be of great interest, I think.
[10:22] Suemoon Magic: they*
[10:22] Soro Dagostino: Its listed in my profile.
[10:23] Lyra Snowpaw: oh that is too bad, I am still in that group but haven't seen anything from it in a long time
[10:23] Soro Dagostino: The admin guy just got tired.
[10:24] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Understandable
[10:24] Soro Dagostino: Not easy to maintain volunteers and assign the cases.
[10:24] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Is he still around, or has he left SL altoghether?
[10:24] Soro Dagostino: it is work.
[10:24] Soro Dagostino: Sam, I have no idea.
[10:26] Soro Dagostino: He shows as having been inworld on 7-28
[10:26] Soro Dagostino: 29*
[10:27] Sam Courtois. Esq.: What is his name? I'll reach out to him.
[10:27] Soro Dagostino: Daniel is a member to.
[10:28] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Daniel is only involved sporadically , as far as I can tell.
[10:28] Sam Courtois. Esq.: / I My
[10:29] Soro Dagostino: Atreyu Starsider
[10:29] Sam Courtois. Esq.: OK, thatnks.
[10:29] Lyra Snowpaw: I think Baeric was or is also in that group
[10:29] Sam Courtois. Esq.: ok
[10:29] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Baeric is usually on line on a regular baissi - don't know where he is today.
[10:30] Suemoon Magic: Elizabeth crashed?
[10:30] Soro Dagostino: Show as on line yesterday
[10:30] Sam Courtois. Esq.: She is on a borrowed computer.
[10:30] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Having RL issues with ehre eauipment.
[10:31] Sam Courtois. Esq.: her equipment
[10:31] Suemoon Magic: I know the feeling
[10:31] Soro Dagostino: Been freezing up
[10:32] Suemoon Magic: It's the viewers, as they get more sophisticated, we have to have better computers, it's hard to justify the expense
[10:32] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Mostly, its an on-board memory problem isn't it?
[10:33] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Pop some more memory in and youare golden.
[10:33] Suemoon Magic: I guess, my computer overheats
[10:33] Suemoon Magic: laptops are hard to ad stuff to
[10:33] Sam Courtois. Esq.: there's that
[10:33] Suemoon Magic: I would love more memory and a better graphics card
[10:33] Suemoon Magic: In New Orleans, I have an evacuation mentality, laptops are portable ㋡
[10:34] lexpert: :)
[10:34] Tim Faith: :)
[10:34] lexpert: I am on a macbook air
[10:34] The Freak Magnet: If you're overheating, get a better CPU fan
[10:34] lexpert: and the fan sounds like a storm
[10:34] The Freak Magnet: I build my own, and none are newer than 2007
[10:34] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Well, with the drought, perhaps sea levels will go down?
[10:34] The Freak Magnet: Blow the dust off the fins on the heat sink?
[10:35] Suemoon Magic: I've bought those fan pads that plug into laptops but they burn out fast
[10:35] Lyra Snowpaw: I got one of those turboc ooling stations to put under my laptop
[10:35] Suemoon Magic: I have blown it out
[10:35] The Freak Magnet: Laptops do pose their own particular issues
[10:35] Suemoon Magic: yep
[10:35] Lyra Snowpaw: Soro, what kinds of cases was the SLPC getting?
[10:35] Tim Faith: maybe we need a computer clinic to go with our other ventures
[10:35] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:35] The Freak Magnet: I'm looking into cooling now since I use mine for DJing and with 100 degree temps it needs help
[10:36] Soro Dagostino: I honestly have forgotten
[10:36] Suemoon Magic: My son gets frozen veggies out and puts them under his laptop when he's in WoW
[10:36] lexpert: he he
[10:36] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:36] Tim Faith: there you go
[10:36] Soro Dagostino: Many were the dealing of EO's and tenants.
[10:37] The Freak Magnet: YEah, those reusable cooling packs are great for at home. I only have temp issues when doing outdoor venues like car shows, etc.
[10:37] Soro Dagostino: Claims for tier collected and then not paid.
[10:38] Lyra Snowpaw: ohhhhh ya I bet
[10:38] Lyra Snowpaw: did the parties seem to accept the authority of the rulings?
[10:38] Soro Dagostino: That was a problem
[10:38] Soro Dagostino: And it probably made the system fail.
[10:39] Soro Dagostino: The place was like AAA -- without an enforceable writing.
[10:39] Suemoon Magic: Linden would almost have to be involved to enforce?
[10:39] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Was there an undertaking in advance to be bound by the ruling?
[10:40] Soro Dagostino: Not that I know Sam.
[10:40] Lyra Snowpaw: well and I think the Lindens prefer SL to be more like the wild west. . . as long a person isn't doing something to get the Lindens into trouble witht the RL law--they just leave things be
[10:41] Suemoon Magic: They seem to be so short sited
[10:41] Soro Dagostino: Short-sighted and understaffed.
[10:42] Lyra Snowpaw: too bad the lindens wouldn't have just farmed out the abuse stuff--to SLPC or so
[10:43] Soro Dagostino: They ((Lindens)) once had a police force.
[10:44] Soro Dagostino: going back a number of years ago.
[10:44] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Really?
[10:44] Soro Dagostino: I don't know if it still exists.
[10:44] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Jack boots and automatic weopons?
[10:44] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:44] Suemoon Magic: they can ban folks
[10:45] Tim Faith: probably didn't generate profit so they dumped it
[10:45] Lyra Snowpaw: well sure most IRCs have some kind of moderation
[10:45] Soro Dagostino: No, pretty ladies and kind words.
[10:45] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Aha - Lyra's kind of cops!
[10:46] Lyra Snowpaw: hmm they could work in our new "venue"
[10:46] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Chippendale's for female offenders.
[10:46] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:46] Tim Faith: "and don't do that again, bad boy"
[10:47] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I think I might have a g-string in my inventory for emergencies.
[10:47] Lyra Snowpaw: pfft epidemic of repeat offenders
[10:47] Tim Faith: lol
[10:47] Soro Dagostino: Many went off to the SLCG
[10:47] Soro Dagostino: there being no army
[10:47] Suemoon Magic: SLCG?
[10:48] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Coast Guard?
[10:48] Lyra Snowpaw: now what is really a shame is that the Lindens wouldn't take (apparently) a penalty suggestion from the SLPC
[10:48] Soro Dagostino: Coast Guard for the Linden Seas.
[10:48] Lyra Snowpaw: would have made their jobs easier
[10:48] Suemoon Magic: ah
[10:49] Soro Dagostino: Now, like most military branches, officious and overbearing.
[10:49] Soro Dagostino: Think TSA
[10:49] Lyra Snowpaw: I kinda like those TSA strip searches--if it's a hottie
[10:50] Soro Dagostino: LOL
[10:50] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I am always just so grateful that they found something for those people to do.
[10:50] Suemoon Magic: I got my tiny, 20 yr old pen knife confiscated last time I traveled
[10:50] Suemoon Magic: old lady librarians are so dangerous
[10:50] Tim Faith: yep
[10:51] Tim Faith: glad we are protected from that!
[10:51] Lyra Snowpaw: I once had a comercially package, unopened, empty squirt gun meant as a gift confiscated
[10:51] Suemoon Magic: lol
[10:51] Sam Courtois. Esq.: For years, sex offenders have been treated as second class citizens in our country
[10:51] The Freak Magnet: Now they get paid to offend as TSA "agents"
[10:51] Lyra Snowpaw: they said it was a weapo, I said yes if it were full of sulphiric acid--but as you can see--it's empty
[10:52] The Freak Magnet: They have prevented exactly ZERO terrorist attacks.
[10:52] Lyra Snowpaw: it's the consequence of poorly educated law enforcement
[10:52] Tim Faith: felons need jobs too, man
[10:52] The Freak Magnet: That's what Congress is for
[10:52] The Freak Magnet: And the NFL
[10:52] Tim Faith: true, or being mayor in DC
[10:52] Sam Courtois. Esq.: or Chicago
[10:53] The Freak Magnet: Or Illinois governor
[10:53] Tim Faith: wonder where all the cynicism comes from?
[10:53] Tim Faith: from this room!!!
[10:53] The Freak Magnet: Life
[10:53] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Chicago
[10:53] Lyra Snowpaw: He is kidding Lex--Chicago is NOT that corrupt : )
[10:53] Soro Dagostino: Or Bell, Santa Monica and a host of other communities.
[10:53] The Freak Magnet: Yes it is.
[10:53] The Freak Magnet: I grew up in Chicago.
[10:53] The Freak Magnet: All about who you know and nothing else.
[10:53] Soro Dagostino: ((Sign of the Cross!!))
[10:54] Suemoon Magic: I used to work in the U of Chicago Law Library
[10:54] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Well, lexpert live there - what do you think?
[10:54] Soro Dagostino: Silver stake at my side!
[10:54] Lyra Snowpaw: oh gosh then the legal profession is rife with corruption if that's the case
[10:54] lexpert: I am here since a month now
[10:54] lexpert: seems nice :)
[10:55] lexpert: Will get a better perspective over the time
[10:55] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Well, perhaps you could become president then.
[10:55] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:55] Soro Dagostino: Ahhh, the innocence of youth.
[10:55] Lyra Snowpaw: speaking of, Sam I didn't get that 100L you promised me for voting for you
[10:55] Suemoon Magic: ㋡
[10:55] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Oh, yeah- sorry about that.
[10:55] Soro Dagostino: He paid?!!
[10:56] Sam Courtois. Esq.: No no - she didn't get it.
[10:56] Lyra Snowpaw: no, sent him an invoice lol
[10:56] Soro Dagostino: I would pay that for you to vote for the other person!!
[10:56] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Me too
[10:56] Lyra Snowpaw: ty Lex
[10:57] Lyra Snowpaw: kvetch kvetch kvetch
[10:57] lexpert: ty Lyra
[10:57] Sam Courtois. Esq.: OK folks - is there anything else for the good of the order today?
[10:57] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Next meeting - September 9.
[10:57] Tim Faith: lexis im me that our 990 is filed
[10:57] Tim Faith: one less issue off the list
[10:58] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Please mark your calendar.
[10:58] Lyra Snowpaw: no except for the Strip Club and Law Library
[10:58] The Freak Magnet: Nice chatting with y'all. Hope to make the Sept. meeting as well.
[10:58] lexpert: before we leave, please someone help me understand the agenda
[10:58] Suemoon Magic: If we had case files of precedent decisions to keep, amybe a law library ㋡
[10:58] Sam Courtois. Esq.: That's for you to work out Lyra - we can do it at sea level - I have three parcels that are vacant.
[10:59] lexpert: may be some reading/induction will be helpful
[10:59] The Freak Magnet: lexpert, enjoy Chicago, best food & music in the world
[10:59] lexpert: he he, doing that
[10:59] Suemoon Magic: Do we have information for new members?
[10:59] lexpert: thnks
[10:59] Soro Dagostino: Suemoon, that could help.
[10:59] Tim Faith: check out our SLBA website at slbarassn.ning.com
[10:59] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Actually, we do.
[11:00] The Freak Magnet: I need to head out, catch up soon
[11:00] Suemoon Magic: Cool
[11:00] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Thanks Tim
[11:00] Sam Courtois. Esq.: By Rykk!
[11:00] Sam Courtois. Esq.: thanks for coming.
[11:00] Tim Faith: c u later
[11:00] Suemoon Magic: bye rykk
[11:00] Soro Dagostino: Goodbye Rykk
[11:01] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Thank you all for coming.
[11:01] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Have a great weekend.
[11:01] Soro Dagostino: Is the website listed in the group description?
[11:01] Sam Courtois. Esq.: No, but it si agreat idea.
[11:01] Suemoon Magic: That's a good idea
[11:02] Soro Dagostino: forums do help.
[11:02] Lyra Snowpaw: oh Sam do we have rent boxes yet?
[11:02] Sam Courtois. Esq.: we haver a forum
[11:02] Soro Dagostino: Most of the CDS business is on its Forum
[11:02] Sam Courtois. Esq.: have*
[11:02] Lyra Snowpaw: Lex if you are interested, there is still office space available on the sim if you are interested in making a home base here
[11:03] Soro Dagostino: Hmmmm, that reminds me, I am a little late with my rent.
[11:03] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Oh thank you for raising that.
[11:03] lexpert: Lyra, will look in to that
[11:04] lexpert: thnks
[11:04] Lyra Snowpaw: well I just awnt to know whether to pay Sam or the box
[11:04] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I will be happy to show you around after we finish.
[11:04] lexpert: that'll be great
[11:04] Suemoon Magic: Well, I need to log off before my computer melts down
[11:05] Lyra Snowpaw: bye Sue
[11:05] Suemoon Magic: bye everyone
[11:05] Soro Dagostino: Bye Sue.
[11:05] Lyra SnowpawLyra Snowpaw tosses Sue some frozen peas
[11:05] Sam Courtois. Esq.: Bye bye - Sue thansk for coming - libarry program in Octobedr
[11:05] Tim Faith: sam, can you update our group profile with our new web address?
[11:05] Tim Faith: i don't think I can edit that
[11:06] Sam Courtois. Esq.: I will do that.
[11:06] Tim Faith: thxs.

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