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Minutes of the Executive Committee Meeting February 4, 2012

[09:59]  Suemoon Magic: Hi Sam

[09:59]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq) is Online

[10:00]  Suemoon Magic: Hi Elizabeth

[10:00]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Good morning.

[10:00]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Thank you for coming.

[10:01]  DanielPerry Laa is Online

[10:01]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Silly question, but is this expected to be a long meeting today? I hadn't planned for it in advance.

[10:02]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I understand - I really would like to keep it as short as possible.

[10:02]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Alright then. Smiles. Hello Dan

[10:03]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I'd just like to get some organizational details on the table.

[10:03]  Suemoon Magic: Hi Dan

[10:03]  DanielPerry Laa: Hi Elizabeth! Hi Suemoon!

[10:03]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Ok. I guess I thought that was what we were doing at next week’s exec comm meeting. LOL

[10:03]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Thank you for coming

[10:03]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Hi Jonathan.

[10:03]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Thanks, Sam. Hi All. Hope you mind me joining in to observe.

[10:04]  Suemoon Magic: Hi Jonathan

[10:04]  DanielPerry Laa: Hi Tellagu

 [10:04]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I was hoping that by having the exec committee meeting away from the regular meeting, there would be time to go into details as appropriate and not be crunched by time.

[10:05]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): May I make a selfish request, while it's nice to see a great turnout, can we try to plan these things a little further in advance just so that schedules can be arranged?

[10:05]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): The first thing I would like to do is to fill out the Executive Committee, I believe that we have at least one vacancy.

[10:06]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Of course. This was billed as an extra-ordinary meeting. We won't be breaking the schedule in the future.

[10:06]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): lol - No worries.

[10:07]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I need names for people to serve on the Exec Committee. Any volunteers?

[10:07]  Suemoon Magic: You can probably assume that those of us who show up are interested?

[10:08]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I would volunteer but I think I'm already on it?

[10:08]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): You are.

[10:08]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): lol - Hi Julynn!

[10:08]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Sue are you on the committee?

[10:08]  Julynn Lilliehook: Hi ALl!

[10:08]  Suemoon Magic: Hi July

[10:08]  DanielPerry Laa: Hi Julynn!

[10:08]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Jonathan?

[10:08]  Suemoon Magic: I thought maybe I was ㋡

[10:08]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Smiles, Julynn.

[10:08]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Julynn? OK you are now.

Jonathan? Daniel? Will you serve?

 [10:09]  DanielPerry Laa: I think I am as ex officio

[10:09]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): OK. Works for me.

[10:09]  DanielPerry Laa: Of course will serve, thanks

[10:09]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Julynn?

[10:09]  Julynn Lilliehook: what's the question?

[10:09]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): are you on, will you serve?  Executive Committee membership.

[10:10]  Julynn Lilliehook: sure

[10:10]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): OK. Next, Daniel, you were going to put together a committee regarding the Law of SL. Have you made any progress? I am hoping that you will be able to give a report at the regular meeting next week.

[10:11]  DanielPerry Laa: More specifically, I was going to put together a committee which would develop "rallying points" and one consideration was a body of SL law ... however, there was some pushback on that topic

[10:11]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Can we put that on the agenda?

[10:12]  DanielPerry Laa: I just had shoulder surgery last week and have extensive rehab this coming week. I don’t think I will have much to report next week, sorry

[10:12]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Have you been able to meet with any of the interested individuals?

[10:13]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I know that Elizabeth and Ellen at least expressed interest.

[10:13]  DanielPerry Laa: Not yet due to my surgery - I was out for 4 days on meds. Am trying now but hard with one hand

[10:13]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): OK. Med reasons are solid, of course.

[10:13]  DanielPerry Laa: I will contact them and try to arrange a confab soon

[10:13]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Can we project that for April?

[10:14]  DanielPerry Laa: April works for me, thanks

[10:14]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Great - you're on.

 [10:14]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Next, The Legal Village. I hope everyone has had a chance to check it out. Agenda has put her heart and soul into it.

[10:15]  DanielPerry Laa: Saw it - Agenda has done a great job

[10:15]  Suemoon Magic: I walked around some, looks great

[10:15]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): We have something like 15 storefront offices available for people to rent.  Essentially the concept is that people will come to Justitia for the purpose of meeting and meeting with attorneys.  Tthe storefront offices can house a tp to other remote locations including skyboxes for more private conversations.  We wanted a central location however.

[10:17]  DanielPerry Laa: central location = good

[10:17]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Agenda's concept, which I believe is a good one is that there are people in SL looking for legal counsel.  We can provide that.  Please consider renting a storefront if you have on on-line professional presence.  Please also make sure that others know the storefronts are available.

[10:18]  DanielPerry Laa: Cost?

 [10:19]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Mine is at the bottom of the steps and people are welcome to look around.

[10:19]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I think we agreed that the rent would be $L300 per week, but that is flexible at the moment.  If it is too high or too low, we will adjust.

[10:20]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Where do I sign up?

[10:20]  DanielPerry Laa: 300 per week = rough approx in RL$?

[10:20]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): The concept is more important than the revenue.

[10:20]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): $1200L - $5.14 USD

[10:20]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): About a dollar and a quarter.

[10:20]  Suemoon Magic: $L250 = about 1$

[10:20]  DanielPerry Laa: Thks!

[10:20]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I just looked it up lol

[10:21]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Jonathan, you’re signed up already. Pick out the one you want.

[10:21]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I would like one as well Sam.

[10:21]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): you've got it.

[10:21]  DanielPerry Laa: Could the rent from all 15 eliminate the need for membership fees?

[10:21]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Membership fees for the SLBA?  That wouldn't be appropriate.

[10:22]  DanielPerry Laa: Right

[10:22]  Suemoon Magic: Is Agenda the estate manager?

[10:23]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Agenda is the assistant manager.

[10:22]  Suemoon Magic: Do we have rental boxes?

[10:22]  DanielPerry Laa: rental boxes?

[10:23]  Suemoon Magic: Boxes for each rental spot where tenants can pay rent

[10:23]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): There will be rental boxes. Not in place yet.

[10:24]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): feel free to pay me if you like.

[10:24]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Do we tell you then which spot we would like?

[10:24]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Yes please.

[10:24]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Will do as soon as meeting over. :-)

[[10:24]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Thank you!

[10:24]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Anyhow, that leads me to the third item on my agenda today - I have never seen a treasurer's report for the Association. I will be asking the treasurer to give a detailed report in writing to the next meeting.  It is my plan to run the group for the next year in a somewhat conventional manner.  Officers, committees and reports.

[10:25]  TelLagu Swords paid you L$15600.

[10:25]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I hope we will have a Programs Committee that can be on track and arrange for a program a month

[10:26]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Sounds like a good idea.

[10:27]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): anyone want to chair a program committee? I would like to have three or four members.

[10:28]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Didn't Ellen already get that position last time?

[10:28]  DanielPerry Laa: I will gladly serve as a member but would rather not chair it

[10:28]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): it would be my plan to advertise the programs as much as possible.

[10:28]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Or was that something else?

[10:28]  DanielPerry Laa: something else

[10:29]  DanielPerry Laa: don't think we even discussed a Program Committee last time

[10:29]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Alright. I just remember ending up on that with her.

[10:29]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I am not sure what is happening with Ellen, I think she is having some RL issues.

[10:29]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): She has not been on line for a while.

[10:29]  DanielPerry Laa: she expressed interest in working with me on a broader committee … directions, I guess

[10:29]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): OK

[10:29]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Actually, I am not sure you were at that meeting Dan. LOL... I hope she is alright. I'll try to send her a message offline.

[10:30]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Let me ask if there are other items that need to be on the agenda for the regular meeting next week?

[10:30]  DanielPerry Laa: I w s at the last meeting. But did miss the month before due to SL glitch

[10:30]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Got it. I missed last month because of the date change. Must have been the one before it.

[10:30]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): My plan is to use the Executive Committee to plan the regular meetings.

[10:30]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I think that's a good idea.

[10:31]  DanielPerry Laa: Apologies, I have to go. Will see you all next week!

[10:31]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): And I plan to make the regular meeting lively and brief.

[10:31]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): He's going to dance a jig! :-)

[10:31]  Suemoon Magic: ㋡

[10:31]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): So the Executive Committee - you people here today, will have work to do.

[10:31]  DanielPerry Laa is Offline

[10:31]  Suemoon Magic: See you next week Daniel

[10:31]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Be well Daniel!

[10:31]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Thank you for coming.

[10:32]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Bye Daniel

[10:32]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Bye Daniel.

[10:32]  Suemoon Magic: ㋡

 [10:32]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): :-)

 [10:33]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): In any case, I propose to wind this down today, but I am open to suggestions – I am trying to be on line virtually every day for at least a few minutes.

[10:33]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I hope to make the association active and vital and I hope you all will help.

[10:34]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I think if you keep going on that track perhaps we can get it back to what it was years ago.

[10:34]  Suemoon Magic: We used to have CLEs

[10:34]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): There are a lot of people in SL that want to be associated with us, and I believe we can bring them in through the door. CLE's are very important in my mind

[10:35]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Mine too. And I think if we keep it a professional-minded association it will do that again.

[10:35]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Strongly concur regarding CLEs.

[10:35]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Cat Galileo was able to organize then and make them work, but she has dropped out of the Association, and I don't know quite why.

[10:36]  Suemoon Magic: I've tried to contact her and but she doesn't respond.

[10:36]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): She and I are FB friends and I intend to follow up with her.

[10:36]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I think there ended up being a strong divide in the Association and many left.

[10:36]  Suemoon Magic: She did many things for the Librarian's group that I am now updating.

[10:36]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): She was really great. She kept the lawyer's directory up too.

[10:36]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I know nothing of that, but will ask.

[10:36]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): OK - other things for the good of the order?

[10:36]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Sam, I'm happy to have my firm sponsor the California CLE registration fees for SLBA.

[10:37]  Suemoon Magic: I tried to talk to her at a convention last summer but she was hard to get to

[10:37]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Wow, that's really nice of you Jonathan.

[10:37]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): My pleasure.

[10:38]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Thank you very much.

[10:38]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): We will make it happen.

[10:38]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq) smiles

[10:38]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Can you chair or perhaps co-chair with Ellen that committee (depending on what is going on with Ellen)?

[10:38]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Of course.

[10:39]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Thank you.

[10:39]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Daniel said he would serve.

[10:39]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): and Elizabeth?

[10:39]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): and Sue?

[10:39]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Programs or CLE?

[10:40]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Programs will be responsible for CLE's

[10:40]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): perhaps a subcommittee

[10:40]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Got it. Sure.

[10:40]  Suemoon Magic: OK

[10:40]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): I will be ex officio and would like to be notified of meetings please.  Perhaps you will be able to give a progress report next Saturday, Jonathan?

[10:41]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): lol.

[10:41]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): OK - enough

[10:41]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Yes, with magic!

[10:41]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Anything else for the good of the order?

[10:41]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): A note to relieve me of all RL duties so I can be here more often?

[10:42]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): You've got it Elizabeth

[10:42]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Thanks Sam!

[10:42]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): he he he

[10:42]  Suemoon Magic: That would be magic

[10:42]  Suemoon Magic: ㋡

[10:42]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Full time in SL from now on.

[10:42]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I would love that!!!

[10:42]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Thank you for coming.

[10:42]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Whoo HOo!

[10:42]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): I'll send you the address of where to provide that note.

[10:42]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Excellent.

[10:42]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): ;-), Going once, going twice,

[10:43]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Motion to adjourn.

[10:43]  Sam Courtois. Esq. (sam4.courtois): Good bye everyone

[10:43]  Suemoon Magic: so moved

[10:43]  Suemoon Magic: bye

[10:43]  Jonathan Kramer (tellagu.swords): Toodles!

[10:44]  Elizabeth (elizabethesq): Bye everyone

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